What I really do for a living, and why the new Vox redesign chaps my hide

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good points.. all of it. i hope someone from vox reads this post!
Um...neighborhood only, remember? :-)
vox owns this place.. remember?
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Could you vague it up a little (in terms of your personal info) or write a similar post that could be public? And add "release 41" as a tag? I know there are some of us out there who are favouriting every post with that tag.

You make solid points. I've read similar things around but yours is the clearest and plainest - easy for everyone to understand.

And kudos (oops, wrote "judos" first) to your boss.
You really summed it up quite nicely. I don't mind most of the things they've changed, but making so many drastic changes all at once isn't really a good idea.

BTW: My roommate's Victoria's Secret sale catalog came today, and they have donut print pajamas! They're cute and not skeevy - tradition PJ style.
It really would be incredibly easy for them to offer us an option of an active toolbar with dropdowns, or inactive. That way the people who are dependent on ease and speed of use get what they want.

One thing I must say in VOX's favor: I just received a very considerate PM from a VOX worker saying that they were taking my comments and criticism into consideration, and pointing out that my [technology is good] suggestion was just utilized.

I am quietly hopeful.

Excellent post.

but no donuts? sigh.

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Very well put! This new version is difficult and I know I'm a clicking more than I should, and I'll be damned if I can figger out it's advantage to me da user.

I am currently wearing a donut-printed flannel nightshirt. It's my favorite.

IG, spot on. I'm glad to hear some company out there has the respect for its users not to crap up the site.

I'll think about it. You know how shy I am. :-D
Donut print pajamas!! I'm there. Thanks for the tip!
Aw, shush, you're so nice. Yes, making the interface simpler and friendlier would be easy enough, if simplicity and user-friendliness are what they want. I hope you're right. But I'm eyeing Team Vox very beadily right now. Very beadily.
Well, we do have real donuts served in the workplace fairly regularly. It is the South, after all. Lots of donuts, and steak-and-potato pizza, and bourbon. Ha.
Hell, I just posted comparing VOX to an abusive relationship, and then a VOX employee sends me a nice PM?

I'm being nice because I really am hopeful.
Thanks, Austin. No, it's not. :-(

I'll be damned if I can figger out it's advantage to me da user.
Thanks, Laurie. I think the patronizing "you'll get used to it" attitude we've been getting from Team Vox would be--well, not easier to take exactly--but maybe I wouldn't be so irritated if I didn't know perfectly well that there are other ways to do this. I don't have time to blog on Vox the way this thing is set up now. I really don't. For me, being active on Vox is conditioned on the site working a certain way. It needs to be simple and easy, take up a certain amount of my time and no more. I'm just so frustrated at the thought that I may have to leave this community just because some idiots at SixApart don't give a rat's ass about user experience.
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Hey, when there is too much crap, one must wipe.

Anyway, Vox still betters than some of the others in me opinion.

Also, I will still think of you as a donut jockey. Just something about a woman that makes donuts for a living...

Aw, thank you Crom...that's sweet. Here, have a virtual donut! I made it myself using arbed's donut generator.
Oh, noes! I would hate to see you leave!
Whaaaa? You don't make donuts for a living? I'm profoundly disappointed :P.
Great post. I suspected that this ass-crapulous new interface had something to do with artificially boosting their page views.Seriously, I don't even go on Vox at work anymoe because it just takes too damn long to find anything.
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Well done, IG. Very well said.

Now I feel like a cheap Vox ho. Used and abused for my mouse clickies.

Maybe THIS will prompt me to get some work done instead of fooling around on this thing.(I keep saying that, ever the optimist).

But yeah, I still think Vox is better than most. Also, all my friends are here.

I'm sorry, BA. But I eat plenty of donuts at work, that has to count for something!

And yeah, this redesign...it's like all our bosses called Team Vox and begged them to find a way to get us to Vox less from work, huh? :-P Except I can't imagine keeping this up, even from home. It's an awful lot of clicking for relatively little return. I hope ShushNow is right to be optimistic. It would be nice to see some of these changes reversed.
I really do not like the new "home page." Unlike lots of people, I don't bother looking for stuff, though. I have access to my neighbors' recent posts still. If they ever hide that, I'll have to stick to replying to any comments left on my (pathetic) posts because I don't think I'll find anyone any other way.

Very short attention spa... oooooh! shiny!!!

Ditto! I'll check out new posts but I can't keep up on any threads with this new clusterfuck of a design. So, I too, am doing much more real work than I would like. Since my home computer is frustrating as it is, I'm even less inclined to go through the hassle here.

If Vox is trying to get more clicks, they aren't getting mine. But Cranky will make up for the rest of us. :-P

Just kidding, crankster. I do miss all the great parties we use to have when the "home" page showed all the new comments, though.

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Very well put.

IG, perhaps you can edit this post leaving out your job details and make it public? Vox NEEDS to read this.
OK, I'm gonna "third" this request! (From Arbed, Suga' - and now, me. I'm so wonderful! ;))

Seriously, you cut right to the heart of the problem. I love it!!!
You don't make donuts for a living!!!!
I am completely disillusioned.
Life is gray.
Here I was at one virtual remove from someone with the coolest job ever.
Sigh.
I really loathe the new home page.
But the entire universe is out of kilter.
It snowed near Santa Cruz.
I'm feeling all apocalyptic.
And now I don't even know someone who makes donuts.
How depressing it all is.
Maybe you should leave your current job and go find one making donuts?
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Is this post too long to submit on a feedback form? I can understand you not wanting to make a public post, so feedback might be the way to go.

It's got to be nice to work for a guy who actually cares about the end users. Maybe we should make "don't crap up the site" banners. I've said this all over the place but it stands to be repeated: vox is about community, and this release feels like they have obstructed our connections to each other. If they break up the community they're going to be shooting themselves in the foot.
Val! That's brilliant. You HAVE to make us "Don't crap up the site" banners. Actually -- I think I may have edited the boss' line a little for our PG audience. He's a big city guy, so naturally he said, "Don't fuck up the site." I didn't want to upset the younguns so I changed it in the post. Either way -- please make us that banner!
Done. I even kept it PG, who would've expected that from me?? I still managed to keep it slightly offensive.
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Ha! It's perfect. Very you. "Slightly offensive" - LOL!
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Great post! I honestly don't have a major issue with the new release - it's just another thing that happens. I don't pay for Vox, so I don't really complain all that much. Sooner or later, they'll do something really stupid and I'll have to move on to another service. I came from MSN Spaces which was so, SO horrible. At the end when they put out a new release, I could barely use the site and my CPU would always run wide open every time I opened my page.

Vox on the other hand, was fun and fast. I like how you can just throw up a video or an audio file - it really adds to your posts.

What I don't like is having to find something. If I can't quickly get to my friends posts or explore the way I want to, or see what is "good" - it just becomes a hassle and I don't need more hassles. Hopefully they will reconsider the change - they've done it before. It's not a show stopper for me, but their "seamless" user experience is taking away from my "happy" user experience...
If I can't quickly get to my friends posts or explore the way I want to, or see what is "good" - it just becomes a hassle and I don't need more hassles.

Yes, that is my main objection to this redesign precisely. I've whined about it enough (in the comments other posts, heh, as well as here) so I won't go on and on about it now. But that's what I mean about respect for the end user. We're not just a bunch of freeloaders; it wouldn't kill them to give us a little consideration. This is supposed to be a symbiotic relationship.
Perfectly stated. "Judos!"
IG --- 2 questions:
1. Where'd you get the banner from???
and
2. You don't have to kill us now that you've told us what your real job is, do you?
&:o?
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Yes, Judos. I think the same thing- we are not freeloaders. It may be lame, but I run a small to middlin website CuteBabyFix.com. When we have a slow week as far as submissions go, finding new content can be murder. It can take hours getting people's permission to use their photos, etc. If anyone is getting freebies in this deal it is VOX. We bloggers provide them with a near constant stream of good content for people to browse, and anyone who makes websites knows, Content is King. You got good content, you got advertising, baby. You got good content, you got eyeballs to look at said content. If Vox craps up the site the bloggers will take their content to another site, very quickly. They will be shooting themselves in the proverbial foot. Without blog content, VOX is nothing. They should be giving us what ever we want, and faster.
1) the banner was made by the brilliant Valerae, and she is offering it to any Voxer for the purpose of protesting the nasty-ass Release 41. Download it, pronto! :-)
2) No, I don't have to kill you...yet. :-)

anyone who makes websites knows, Content is King.

Thank you for backing me up, kRista! I pull my hair out whenever I see the comments from Voxers humbly thanking Vox for being willing to listen to any feedback at all, and for allowing us to squat on their precious Web real estate in the first place. Thank goodness it isn't everyone, but there are many Voxers who seem to think we aren't entitled to a reasonably friendly interface, because we are getting to blog here for free. They must be joking. Companies pay real money for the awesome content that many Voxers in my hood (and outside of it) provide here for free. JEEZ.

I pull my hair out whenever I see the comments from Voxers humbly thanking Vox for being willing to listen to any feedback at all

I added a note on my dog crap post to this affect only because this has been one of the few places on the web where this is true - at least in my experience. So many times your feedback or comments online just go into a black hole. Whereas it actually seems like Vox has real life humans working for them, and that is truly one of the great things about this place.
Daily, my frustration grows. We have a spare computer. I am so ready to buy a blog tool, host my own damn blog and keep the money to myself.

That being said, I'm still quietly hopeful. I've sent VOX more feedback. I'm giving them GOOD advice, advice that my oldest brother gets paid $80 an hour to provide to the company he works for, I'm doing it for free, the least VOX could do is recognize that their community has brains and will reward them for giving us the kind of site we WANT to blog on.
What an eye opener, IG! Thanks so much for letting us know it's every bit as stinky as we think it is.
Ah--I didn't mean that as a jab at you, Val. I've been following various threads on other Voxes about this, and some of the comments there (by Voxers I don't know) have struck me as annoying: simultaneously wrongheadedly humble and patronizingly self-righteous. The tone I've heard sounds like, "I'm a better person than the rest of you whiners because I appreciate the favor that Vox is doing for us. Unlike the rest of you, I accept this free gift with gratitude and without complaint." That irritates the bejeezus out of me because this is not what is happening.

To me, that attitude is roughly analogous to abdicating responsibility as a U.S. citizen and saying, "Thank you, dear elected officials, for taking on the heavy burden of running this country. In appreciation, I hereby accept without question any decision you make while in office." Umm...that's not how it's supposed to work, lazy ass. What is the matter with people that they don't know it's okay to demand more? We need to quit worrying about being too pushy or overstepping our place. This is a partnership. Speak the fuck up.

Grrr. Time for IG's nap, I think. Putting away soapbox now. :-P